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A Couple of Exciting Genealogy Events: Save These Dates!

Here are a couple of exciting upcoming events:

State Acrhives bldg

California State Archives, 1020 O Street, Sacramento

Saturday, October 15, 2011: Family History Day at the California State Archives in Sacramento. This will be the 13th annual Family History Day at the State Archives located at 1020 O St. in Sacramento.  In addition to the Archives staff, there will be a number of local societies represented and several vendors. The California Genealogical Society & Library will have a booth there as well.  [I'm on the CGSL Board of Directors and I'll be manning our booth for part of the day. So please stop by and say hello!].

Saturday, November 5, 2011: Ancestry Day San Francisco. Ancestry.com and the California Genealogical Society are pleased to bring you Ancestry Day in San Francisco 2011, a day to discover and celebrate your family history. This exciting event can help you start or hone your genealogical skills with informative classes, expert consultations and more. The venue is the Hyatt Regency San Francisco, located on the Embarcadero waterfront. This is the event of the year in Northern California.  You’ll have an opportunity to consult with expert genealogists about your research issues. [I'm pleased to be one of the presenters as well as one of the consultants!].  Don’t miss this great chance with Ancestry.com and the California Genealogical Society!

Ancestry.com Replies to “Those Oldies But Goodies”

After having posted about “ancient research aids,”  I got a very pleasant email from John Bacus, a product manager on Ancestry.com’s search engine.  He pointed out the “location filters” on the search engine.  They are located just under the location box in each search box, just as the name filters are just beneath the name boxes.  These filters,allow a user to restrict to the exact place specified, to a specific county, or a county and adjacent counties, or the particular state, among the “granularity options.”   So even with new search, it’s  possible to query the number people named Johnson in Clay County, Missouri, on the 1930 census.

I think these filters work well.  I had been overlooking them for awhile–quite embarrassing since I was in the first group of bloggers shown these features before they debuted!  I encourage you to try them with various levels of granularity and see the results produced.

Research Note: Those Oldies but Goodies (“Ancient” Research Aids)

I must say that I’m always excited to hear of new processes, new software, new methods, new hardware, new, new, new, new everything! Now while I’m not one who must go out and be the first to have something new, just for the sake of being first to have it, I will usually upgrade as soon as I possibly can afford to (after having made a considered investigation, of course).

What do we do with things that are old? All too often, we cast them out, banish them never to be seen again, ridicule them as ancient, laugh at those who use them, and in other ways disrespect them, at least until they are old enough to be rediscovered or rebranded as “venerable” or antique.

Is it hard for you to suppress a laugh at the old couple down the street who still have a dial telephone? When was the last time you played a 33 1/3 LP? Or a 45? Or 78? Did you know that Rambler was once the name of a top-selling automobile in America?

As this world has moved at warp speed from hi-fi to Wi-Fi, some things that we used to enjoy now seem hopelessly useless.

By the by, genealogical sports fans, when was the last time you perused the IGI? Or the PRF?

“The what? And the who?”

Now ask yourself this, “When was the last time I looked into the old version of FamilySearch.org?”

When did you last use “Old Search” on Ancestry.com?

I admit it’s been a long time since I’d done any of those things! But a spirited e-mail correspondence with a knowledgeable person concerning the potential origins of one of my research surnames led me back to both “Old Search,” and “old” FamilySearch.org. And I found myself contemplating possibilities that I had never contemplated before.

These ancient (in techie terms) databases still yield valuable clues and information that may assist one in one’s research. Take the IGI for example. (“The what!?” International Genealogical Index). As you may recall, the IGI contains hundreds of millions of records of life events such as births marriages and deaths,from around the world. it’s conveniently broken into regions of the world such as North America or South America and sometimes subregion such as Southwest Europe. Sometimes individual countries are broken out on the IGI. There is even a “World Miscellaneous” listing of records on the IGI.

International Genealogical Index Screenshot

Remember This?


Click on an IGI name and you’ll find an individual record that may include a spouse’s name, parents names, a pedigree chart, or a family group sheet. Individual record may also contain the name and address of the person who provided the information. Caveat –many of these addresses may be outdated.

IGI individual records also contain a Family History Library microfilm number. Click on the number and you’ll see a description of the records contained in that particular microfilm roll.

The individual IGI records can be printed or downloaded to your computer.

IGI records come mainly from people who lived between 1500 and 1885. Many were submitted by members of the LDS church.

So why on earth would you want to use the IGI today, with so many other modern tools out there? Well, you might want a lot of information quickly in a particular format. You might find clues that you’ve overlooked in other resources. You might discern patterns that you can’t quite make out from other resources. You might find ancestors from overseas that you couldn’t find anywhere else. And all of this is free.

You do take a somewhat greater risk of unreliability with the IGI, but if you think of it as an aid and not as a final repository, you may find it to be a useful tool in your research.

The same could be said of other aspects of the old family search such as the PRF (“The who?!” Pedigree Resource File), or Ancestral File.

I found that reviewing these databases presented me with some interesting and thought-provoking questions about some of my research surnames.

And how about “Old Search” on Ancestry.com? I was  among those who clamored for the “New Search” and I love it. For many, many months now I haven’t even bothered to take a look at “Old Search.” But recently, in the course of the same correspondence I referenced above, I found the old version quite handy for something I needed.  For example, say you want to know “how many people named Johnson lived in Clay County, Missouri in 1870?” You’ll find the answer better presented in the old Ancestry.com search format than the new. The new format is “person-centric.” The old one is more surname-geographic. Each has its strengths, depending upon what you want to do.

So don’t abandon these oldies but goodies just yet. Unfortunately, especially with FamilySearch.org,  it’s hard to tell how long the old stuff will be around.

Hey, buddy, can I borrow a quarter? I want to make a phone call, then stop by McDonald’s for a burger. . . .

Ancestry Announces “Ancestry Labs” and “PersonView”

Ancestry.com today announced “Ancestry Labs” containing a beta project called “PersonView.”  Here’s the announcement as it was gievn to me under embargo on Friday afternoon:

We’re launching Ancestry.com Labs – and we’d love you’re feedback

Today we are announcing a new “labs” area of Ancestry.com. This is a part of the site that will allow us to test new ideas and concepts, give you a preview of what we’re thinking for the future, and allow us to hear feedback directly from you.

The projects we place in this area are likely to be early prototypes, and although some of them may make their way into the main Ancestry.com site, some may not. Much depends on your feedback.

The first prototype that we’re launching today is codenamed “Person View” and we’re testing two new ideas:

1.     Person consolidation – can we group records and trees together in a way that better exposes the relationships between records?

2.     Web records – can we find records on the web that match your query (from outside of Ancestry.com’s collections), and then link you directly to them?

You can access the labs website through this URL: http://www.ancestry.com/labs and you can see a quick demo of how it works here: http://screencast.com/t/Y2NiYWM2Y

I’ve been evaluating PersonView for the past few months as one of several bloggers and writers to do so at the invitation of Ancestry.com. In January, I was one of several bloggers invited to Provo to discuss upcoming projects.  At that time, Ancestry’s “New Search” was discussed in some detail and we were given indications that something beyond that was to follow.   And now it has.

I’ve long been in favor of the so-called “person-centric” search and with the beta PersonView, Ancestry.com has got it conceptually correct.  There are a few things that could be different or better; we’ll discuss these in the coming days.

One interesting aspect is the Web search feature that’s part of PersonView.  Ancestry.com, recalling certain difficult events in its not-too-distant past, asked the bloggers and writers what we thought of that feature and solicited ideas about how to link to the source sites.  I can see that some of what was suggested by members of the group has been incorporated into the Web search feature.

Some folks are certainly likely to say that some of this looks strikingly similar to FamilySearch.org’s beta site. [And remember FamilySearch Labs?] It does in some ways.  That doesn’t bother me; in fact, that may be one of the good things.  We’ll explain that in coming days as well.

Some are also likely to say that other Internet companies have had “lab” sites and the outreach is not new.  And of course, some genealogy software, like RootsMagic, has had Web search capability already.

But I think having the Labs site and the PersonView project are a great step forward not only for Ancestry.com,  but for the entire industry.

I’ve received no compensation of any sort whatsoever from Ancestry.com or any else for my  participation in early evaluation or for my opinions in this post or elsewhere.

More to come!

Others writing on this topic:

Randy Seaver, Genea-musings: Ancestry Labs and PersonView: A First Look

Ancestry + Footnote: Update

“Credit Where Credit is Due”

That’s one of our mottos around here.  In our last post, we failed to include Tamura Jones’ substantive article on the acquisition.  Tamura was the first to break the news via Twitter.  His insightful article is at http://www.tamurajones.net/Ancestry.comBuyingSpree.xhtml

Grand Genealogy Journey: Ancestry.com to Acquire Footnote.com

That rumbling out of the western mountains: the Earth shifting on its axis again as the genea-sphere reverberates from learning that Ancestry.com is acquiring Footnote.com!  The announcement made today may be a game-changer in the competition for the online family history customer.

I’ve always liked Footnote.com, and once in  awhile I wistfully have thought that these two  friends of mine, Ancestry and Footnote,  ought to get together.  They are quite different; she’s a bit more worldly than he is, but they’ll go together just fine!

I like the range of records contained on Footnote.com; I like the way they are presented.  I think it’s a great place for historical documents that give context to the events they record and describe. Especially compelling are Footnote’s annotation features, the ability to link documents, and the Person pages.  I’ve enjoyed creating annotations and editing Person Pages (I did a couple of my elementary school teachers).

I haven’t looked too deeply into their pre-nup,  but it could be a match made in online genealogical Heaven!


Other Perspectives:

Randy Seaver, Genea-Musings, Ancestry.com Acquisition of iArchives (including Footnote.com)

Diane Haddad, Genealogy Insider, More on Ancestry.com’s Acquisition of Footnote.com [See Diane's interesting diagram of "the genealogy of genealogy companies."]

Elizabeth O’Neal, LittleBytesofLife, Have You Heard: Ancestry.com to acqquire iArchives/Footnote.com[Elizabeth has a strangely interesting post-post-modern illustration of the new relationship]

Michael John Neill, Rootdig, Out on a Limb about Footnote.com and Ancestry.com

Leland Meitzler, Genealogy Blog, Ancestry.com to Acquire Footnote

John Newmark, Transylvanian Dutch, What Would Happen if Coke Acquired Pepsi?

Michael Hait, The African-American Genealogy Examiner, Ancestry is Acquiring Footnote and online Genealogy Will Never be the Same

Grand Genealogy Journey: En Route to the Centennial State

The California Zephyr pulls out of Salt Lake City at 4:10 a.m. on its 15 hour eastbound trip to Denver.  The trip between Salt Lake City and Denver is, like everything else on this trip, extremely interesting.  Here’s a brief description of some of the sights we’ll see:

  • Provo, Utah: 45 miles southeast of Salt Lake City, this growing town of over 100, 000, is home to Brigham Young University, which as might be expected, has several excellent genealogical resources.  These include the Center for Family History and Genealogy (find online at http://familyhistory.byu.edu/) and the family history collections of the Harold B. Lee Library (online at  http://lib.byu.edu/sites/familyhistory/ ).  Provo is also the home of ancestry.com, and several other commercial genealogy companies.

    BYU Campus

    The campus of Brigham Young University in Provo, Utah

  • Green River, Utah: 100 miles from Provo, this is one of the gateway communities to Canyonlands National Park, about which the National Park Service says:

“Canyonlands preserves a colorful landscape eroded into countless canyons, mesas and buttes by  the Colorado River and its tributaries. The rivers divide the park into four districts: the Island in the  Sky, the Needles, the Maze and the rivers themselves. While these areas share a primitive desert atmosphere, each retains its own character and offers different opportunities for exploration.”

Canyonlands National Park Home page at http://www.nps.gov/cany/index.htm

Canyonlands NP

A trail along the Colorado River in Canyonlands National Park, Utah

Soon we cross the Colorado state line and at about 11 a.m. we come to to the town of Grand Junction.  This is the largest city on Colorado’s Western slope.  The town of 60,000 is the anchor to a metropolitan region of more than 150,000.  The city is a transportation hub for traffic moving between Colorado and Utah.

Grand Junction

City of Grand Junction, Colorado

Two hours later, the train arrives in the popular town of Glenwood Springs, Colorado.  The main attraction in this town is the Glenwood Hot Springs Lodge and the  Glenwood Caverns.  The town sits atop natural hot springs, to which thousands of tourists flock every year.  The town is at the end of Glenwood Canyon, where in the 1970s a famous fight between certain local interests and environmentalists, led by, among others, the singer John Denver was waged over whether the route of Interstate 70 would go through the Canyon.  (Denver and the environmentalists  won).

Glenwood_Springs_Amtrak

The California Zephyr at Glenwood Springs, Colorado

The Zephyr then finds its way through Glenwood Canyon and upslope to Granby, Colorado, elevation 7945 feet.  Granby, a village of 1500, is adjacent to Rocky Mountain National Park. Like Glenwood Springs, Granby exists because of the Denver & Río Grande Western Railroad.  At Granby, the train continues its ascent up the slope.  In about half an hour we are at Fraser, Colorado, elevation 8,574 feet, which shares its Amtrak station with the nearby village of Winter Park, elevation 9, 052 feet.  People come here to sunbathe.  (Just joking–but if you’re lucky, you’ll find a sunny day to ski at Winter Park ski resort.).

Downtown Winter Park

Winter Park, Colorado on a sunny day; Continental Divide is in background.

It’s nearly a three-hour ride down the side of the mountains into our destination city of Denver!

Photo Credits: All courtesy of Wikimedia Commons, except photo of Canyonlands  National Park.  Photo of Canyonlands National Park, courtesy of U.S. Dept of Interior, National Park Service

The Changed Face(s) of Ancestry.com

It’s Not 2007′s Ancestry!

Remember this unfortunate matter?

Believe it or not it’s been less than 2 1/2 years since Ancestry.com found itself overwhelmed in tsunami of controversy that it never anticipated.  The legal aspect of the dispute, about which I wrote a lot, really was not as important as the public relations aspect of it, the trust aspect of it, the transparency aspect, etc. You get the idea.

As an entity, Ancestry.com, under various names, is only about 15 years old.   The 2007  controversymight’ve been exactly what one would expect of a self absorbed, but bright, adolescent.

Last weekend in Provo, however, Ancestry.com displayed a new maturity. Transparency and openness and meaningful contact with its customer base are all part of the changed  face of Ancestry.com. .  Likewise, CEO Tim Sullivan, and senior vice president Andrew Wait have changed the faces, literally,  by bringing in a world class set of subject matter leaders, all with highly attuned people skills.

I just got back to town and school starts tomorrow.  So some of this will have to wait a day or two.  By then, you may have heard some of it from other bloggers, but as they used to say in Washington, nothing’s really been said until everybody has said it.  So stay tuned!

Firefox 3.5.3 and Ancestry.com Clash Delaying Work

Ever since I installed Firefox 3.5.3 a few days ago, I’ve had mysterious problems with Ancestry.com.  It loads very slowly and then doesn’t display any graphics.  So far, this issue has appeared only on Ancestry.com.  I tried my trusty old Netscape 7.2 browser and had the same problem.  Then I tried Internet Explorer 7, which for various reasons I generally loathe, and that was OK.  But now I’m a step behind in my work and having to use the horrible IE7.  Tried the FF support forum and knowledge base; no help yet.   Anybody  else had this problem? Click on image below.

Ancestry.com on Firefox 3.5.3

Ancestry.com on Firefox 3.5.3

Insomnia–The Genealogist’s Friend

A few nights ago, I was having difficulty falling asleep.   Rather than fight the feeling, I thought I’d just get up and cruise the Internet for a little while.

I went first to footnote.com and noticed that their Texas death certificate collection is now about 50% complete.  So I just typed in the name Manson to see what would come up.  There were 55 Mansons in the database.  One I had not seen before was a Janice Manson who died in 1945 in Kerrville, Texas.

Death certificate for Janice Manson.  Image from Footnote.com

Death certificate for Janice Manson. Image from Footnote.com

I clicked on the image for Janice Manson’s death certificate.  I learned from the death certificate that she died at the state sanatorium in Kerrville from tuberculosis.  I also learned that she had lived in Galveston.  That set a tiny alarm bell off in my head, because my father’s family is from South Texas.  Then I learned from the death certificate that Janice Manson’s father’s name was George Felder.   That set another little buzz off in my head.

Felder . . . hmm. . .  Felder,   Helder.  I went to my RootsMagic database and found the name Helder.  Janice Helder.  She’s in the database as the second wife of my grandfather Quentin V.H. Manson.  The source of that information was a transcription of the  Aransas County, Texas, marriage records.  I have found misspellings in that transcription before.

So now I have a death certificate for Janice Felder Manson and a record in my own database of a Janice Helder Manson.  Are they the same person or not?

Sometime ago, I had asked my father about Janice Helder.  He knew nothing about her.  The Aransas County marriage records say that she and Quentin Manson were married in August 1942.  I know that at some point between 1941 and 1945, my grandfather was in the Army, stationed at Camp Wallace in Galveston County.  He played clarinet and keyboards in the camp band.

I went to look up the Galveston city directory in the Ancestry.com “1940 census substitute.” And there, in 1941,  living at 2809 Avenue R, in Galveston, is Quentin (spelled “Quinton” as it often was before the mid-1950s) Manson whose occupation is musician.

I’m satisfied that that passes the Genealogical Proof Standard.

I slept well that night.