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Black Catholic History Month: Black Catholics in the South

The notion of black Catholics in the South is not often the subject of much discussion by anyone, anywhere.  The southern United States is frequently thought of as having been settled largely by Scots-Irish and English people, not exactly fans of the Church of Rome.   The South is caricatured as a bastion of Baptists and, if one wants “high church,” Presbyterians.  Beyond that, outsiders think of marginal cult-like Christianity in the South with practices regarded as odd, if not outright ridiculous.   Blacks in the South are stereotyped as Baptists, but rarely thought of as being anything like Catholic.

Of course, these preconceptions fail to serve anyone or respect anybody’s beliefs.   Southern Protestants, black and white, are quite a complex and diverse group.   And southern black Catholics were among the first Catholics in North America.

We have previously discussed St Augustine, Florida, where a black child was baptized by a Catholic priest in 1606.  This was more than a quarter-century before the arrival of the first Catholic settlers in Maryland.

One might reasonably say that the South was the birthplace of black Catholicism.  The geopolitical history of the region beginning in the sixteenth century explains this point.

Near the end of the fifteenth century, the crowns of Aragon and Castile were united by the marriage of Ferdinand and Isabella.  The unified kingdom had its internal problems to be sure, but the old adage “two crowned heads are better than one” proved true as Aragon-Castile embarked on  a number of imperial expeditions and conquests.  Among these, of course, were successful forays into North America.   At one point, “Spain” [as the merged kingdoms became known popularly] controlled what is now Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, and parts of Georgia and Louisiana.

The Spanish brought black slaves with them to Florida in the sixteenth century.   The Spanish viewpoint on slavery was vastly different from that  of their enemies, them British.  The Spanish had white, as well as black slaves, so for the Spanish, slavery was not completely tied up with race.  Furthermore, Spanish law, heavily influenced by the Church, regarded slaves as human beings and not as property.  As a result, Spanish slaves were frequently baptized, permitted to marry, and encouraged to  have families.

Such attitudes were reinforced when the Bourbons took the Spanish Crown in 1700.   The French, too, controlled large areas of southern North America and held similar views  about slavery.  The South was an incubator for Catholicism among blacks.

There are several significant black Catholic locales in the South, other than St Augustine.   The Diocese of Biloxi, Mississippi, though a late 20th century creation, owes its black Cathodic roots to the era of  Spanish rule. The same could be said of the Archdiocese of New Orleans, with respect to the French.

But in the nineteenth century, both Spain and France, otherwise and elsewhere engaged,  lost their  North American territories to Britain and the United States.   As the plantation system spread across the South, the demand for more black labor grew.  French and Spanish laws were replaced by harsh slave codes.  The number of black Catholics dwindled in number and proportion.

You’ve Broken Down a Brick Wall–Now What?

Hint: You’re Not Going to Disneyland!

Next in a multi-part series

As with a physical barrier, breaking through a genealogical “brick wall” may expose an entirely new landscape.  The new landscape must be explored, analyzed, and documented.  In other words, once the barrier is breached, the real work begins.  If one realizes this fact early, the new territory can be tackled in an organized fashion.  On the other hand, if one is not prepared for this, it may seem like a dike has been cracked and one will be overwhelmed at the tasks!

In the case we’ve been considering, I found that I have  several hundred new potential documented ancestors and collateral relatives that I need to vet for possible addition to my files.  I also have a number of new researcher contacts with whom I may exchange information.  A brick wall is a barrier on two sides!

I’ve got some new locations to explore as well.   And I’ve been introduced to some new aspects of history, too.

Every advance leads to another challenge.  But each advance also supplies the tools for the next challenge.

My advance was in discovering George Guion as the father of my great-grandfather, Richard Gines.  Some of the information that I see across the divide includes the following:

  • A very well-known Louisiana family was headed by one George Seth Guion (1806-1861).   He was a native of Natchez, Mississippi, and a descendant of the French Huguenot founders of New Rochelle, New York.   A prominent sugar planter, he had about 90 slaves in 1860 at Bayou Lafourche, near Thibadoux, Louisiana.
  • George Seth Guion was a lawyer, and later, a judge.  He was the son of a judge.  One of his sons went on to become governor of Mississippi, and another became a U.S. Senator.
  • The Guions were part of the Adams County, Miss.-Eastern Louisiana planter community.
  • The Guion family included males named George, Isaac, and Elijah, which names later turn up among the Gines/Guion families.

So was there a connection between the slave-owner Guions and the black Guion/Gines family?  Questions like this come up once a barrier breached.  Fortunately, I’ve now been exposed to much new (to me) research in Southern libraries and elsewhere that will help answer that specific question.

Breaking Down A Brick Wall–The Problem with Surnames, Part II

Fifth in a multi-part series

I  had hypothesized that my Gines people were associated with English-speaking people named Gines who came from the West Midlands area.  They came to Virginia and North Carolina and from there moved on to South Carolina and other states of the Deep South, eventually winding up in Louisiana and Texas.   That hypothesis was based on several key facts and assumptions:

  • That Gines was more an English name than anything else;
  • That the “variations” were “mistakes” of spelling or transcription;
  • That there was in fact a migration pattern such as I thought which has been documented;
  • That my Gines people in Louisiana had seemed to have a close relationship with families we know to have come from the Carolinas, such as the Brayboys and LeJays.

All of this made logical sense.  As it turns out, the reality may be much more complex.

I coupled my hypothesized migration pattern with an analysis of surnames for “legitimacy.”  Assuming there’s some validity to the notion, I recognized that the World Names Profiler is not necessarily the state pf the art tool for performing such analysis.  But it works well enough for present purposes here.  In any event, I note that neither “Gines” nor any other of the presumed variants appears in the New Dictionary of American Family Names, an authoritative source.

Without going through all of the analysis again (like all decent science, it’s replicable–try it yourself), here are some conclusions that I drew from the surname analysis:

  • The surname spelled “Gines” is probably overwhelming Spanish, occurring in Spain at a rate five times that of any other country.  (And here is one of the potential issues with the Profiler–it does not give us historical data.  But for established European names not displaced very much, we can probably draw some rough but valid inferences).
  • The name Gines is more likely French than it is English, occurring in France at an average rate more than five times that of the United Kingdom.
  • In the United States, the frequency of the name Gines is 95% of it frequency in France.  The U.S. statistics may be skewed by the large family sizes of LDS members with the name Gines.
  • The rough distribution of Gines-surnamed people seems to follow the five-family group model I have described previously.

So what about the “variations”?  Of course, to use the term “variation,” in some sense suggests that the names are isonyms. The whole issue is whether Gines is a creolization of , let’ say, Guion; or whether Guion is the pidginization of Gines.   The other possibility is that they are completely different names as Green is to Gray.

This is a complicated issue and there are few accessible  rigorous studies on the matter. I will tell what I know from my research. Understand that many of these are broad conclusions with a high degree of ambiguity.

I think that it is clear that “Gines” and “Gynes” as they appear from 1870 on in the United States are the same name–that “Gynes” is a phonetic attempt at “Gines.”  There is no evidence that “Gynes’ occurs anywhere in the U.S. except where “Gines” does or historically has, appeared.

The matter of “Guynes” is rather interesting.  Just looking at it and supposing the English pronunciation, it would appear also to be a phonetic rendering of “Gines.”   Curiously, the name “Guynes” occurs most frequently in Texas, Louisiana, Arkansas, and Mississippi. historically almost always among white people.  In counties where there are whites named Guynes, there are likely to be blacks named “Gines.”  The other curiosity is that as I looked at census records for the states I’ve mentio0ned, I found among the white people named Guynes a high occurence of first names like Edward, Henry, Lewis, and Oscar–all of which occur frequently in the black Gines family! One source says that “Guynes” is not pronounced like “Gines,” but is a variant of the Gowen name.

Now to the name Guion, which is the name  under which we found our subject, the father of Richard Gines.  Guion is clearly a French name.  It is probably not a variation of “Gines.”  I’ve come to the conclusion that the original name of this branch of the family tree was likely “Guion”  (“Guyon” a likely variation).  That of course leaves a couple of big questions.  What makes me conclude that? How did George Guion get his name? And why did his son think the name was “Gines”?  The answers to these questions are all tied up in thee geography and history of Louisiana and Mississippi.  It will take some time to completely unravel that, but I will lay it out as I can over time.  It is fascinating.

The Process of Breaking Down a Brick Wall

Second in a multi-part series

Here’s a synopsis of how I achieved my #1 research goal: finding the parents of my great-grandfather, Richard Gines of Shreveport, Louisiana.  Bear in mind that eahcof these steps took months or even years to complete and some ran concurrently.

Step 1:  The  Neophyte Phase.  I was new to genealogical research and had fairly easily made my way through the generations up to my great-grandparents and with respect to the next generation, I had not had much difficulty, either.  But getting past Richard Gines in Louisiana was proving difficult. In this first phase, I concentrated specifically on finding the father of Richard Gines.  I looked almost exclusively for people named Gines [remember this was my neophyte phase!]. Occasionally, I’d come across someone named Gaines, which seems to be thought of as the most likely variation on Gines.  Google, and other search engines, for example, will ask, “Did you mean Gaines?” if you search for Gines. Once in a while, my relatives have been listed in publications or records as Gaines; but it doesn’t happen that often.

To find Richard Gines’ father, I embarked several times on a study of collateral relatives.  As I mentioned in the prologue post, I
had made an assumption that the Ed Gines I had found in Bossier parish was Dick’s brother.  So I tried to find a father for Ed–also to no avail.  I then tried to compile a database of all blacks in the Deep South (LA, MS, AL, GA, SC) named Gines after 1870. Although it’s not complete and is not all that well organized, I have the semblance of such a database.

I used all the  “usual sources” to get there: census records, land records, military records, church and marriage records, tax records, ships’ manifests, deeds, slave bills of sale, etc.  My thought was that I could simply “connect the dots” of birth dates and places and that would lead to the imminent discovery of Richard Gines’ parents.   It didn’t work.

Step 2:  The Learning Phase.  At some point, I began to engage in a broader study of the history, geography, and sociology of Louisiana.  My original naive hope was that I would find the Gines name mentioned in one of the research materials.  That only happened only infrequently and in circumstances that “obviously” had nothing to do with Richard Gines. But it was during this phase that I got the hints that I would need to put it all together eventually.  For example,in a census record, I discovered a Caroline Gines in Catahoula Parish, aged 73 in 1910.  While I couldn’t make a connection to Richard Gines in Caddo Parish, I kept thinking about Caroline Gines and wondering where she had come from.

Then I found some tax records transcribed from Tensas Parish in 1899,  That listed a Rebecca Gines and a “Don” Gines [who I now know to be Dorsey Gines, son of Milford and Rebecca Gines] on Marydale Plantation in Tensas Parish and Elijah Gines and Caroline Gines on Evergreen Plantation.  [Yes, the same Caroline Gines as in the 1910 census!].  Again, no direct connection, but I kept these things in mind.

After thinking about the Tensas Parish tax records for a considerable period of time, I decided to look into those particular plantations.  I read several books about the planters in Tensas Parish.  I discovered that the Tensas planters were often the same people who owned plantations in western Mississippi.  Given the number of folks named Gines in that area, perhaps the slaves in western Mississippi were related in some fashion to those in Tensas Parish.

Significant Locations for Gines or Guynes Surname in Lousiana and Mississippi

Significant Locations for Gines or Guynes Surname in Lousiana and Mississippi

Key for unidentified jurisdictions:
Louisiana: 1-Madison Parish
2-Franklin Parish
3-Richland Parish
4-Catahoula Parish
Mississippi: A-Claiborne County
B-Copiah County
C-Pearl River County

Step 3:  The Spelling Bee.   When I was  about ready to concede defeat, several occurences came together to give my even more clues.  First, cousin Karen Burney related that she had met some one whose name was “Guynes.”  Second, I found a death certificate for one Egans Gines.  This latter individual had been born in Tensas Parish.   Putting the two together, “Tensas parish” and Guynes, led to the discovery of many black people named Guynes in Louisiana.  This led me to want to study further the geography and history of the Mississippi Delta region. I then began to come across people, mainly white, who were  named “Guynes.”

I tried to track “Guynes” slaveowners.  There were several, concentrated around Copiah County, Mississippi, in the southwestern part of the state, but not that many in Louisiana.  But as I continued to look closely at Tensas PArish, I began to find what appeared to be variations on the name Gines.  As I have described before, I found people identified as Gynes, Gions, Giones, Guynes, Gion, Guins, Guines and even a Gaynes.  They all appeared to be related and were concentrated  in an area surrounding Tensas Parish, which area includes parts of western Mississippi.

Most of the apparent variations I had not considered because most don’t occur in a Soundex search.  But there they were.  And I wasn’t sure how to deal with them.  Then the next bit of evidence fell into place.  I discovered that the Louisiana State Archives had a death certificate for one Ed Guynes, black male, born about 1843 in Bossier Parish.

At first, this did not strike me as significant, although interesting.  The  date of birth, 1843, was far earlier than I had placed any sibling of Richard Gines. The more I studied it, however, the more interesting it got.  Ed Guynes’ spouse was named “Adelaide” on the death certificate.  Ed Gines on the 1880 census had a wife identified as “Adlade.”

This was eventually interesting enough to cause me to set up an intermediate hypothesis: that Richard Gines’ parents and siblings would be found in Tensas Parish.  So I went back there to look for collaterals.  But this time, I was armed with a good knowledge of the name variants as well as  a knowledge of the plantations in the parish.  I began an intensive search in Tensas Parish, looking for men named Dick and running all the spelling variations. This yielded a lot more Gines people under various forms of the name. It also produced a certain feeling in my mind that I had located Richard Gines’ parents in Tensas Parish, even though I still didn’t know specifically who they were.  I had one lead in which I had only a little confidence.

But I could sense that I was so close, so close! I couldn’t let what I had slip away. I decided to make one major push on this issue. I decided to go page by page pf the census records for 1870 for Caddo, Bossier, and Tensas Parishes, searching for every known spelling variation.  That is what I did . . . and that’s how I found George Guion!

I could have searched page by page at the beginning five years ago, but I wouldn’t have known what I was looking for or where reasonably to search.  I would have been seeking a family named Gines and I would have not found them.  It was only when I had learned many other things in context that I was ready to find the answer.

Next: What Makes You So Sure You’ve Knocked Down A Brick Wall? (Remember “The Wrong Longs?”)

Way Around the Brick Wall: The Plantations

As we were making our long way around the brick wall of my great-grandfather Richard William Gines (1860-?), the trail led to several plantations in Tensas Parish, Louisiana.

The first  plantation we found was called Marydale.   What attracted us here was a nearly forgotten tax record from Tensas Parish that showed Rebecca Gines and “Don” Gines living on the plantation in 1899.   Census records suggest that this is the family of Milford Gines, residing in Police Jury Ward #3 of Tensas Parish.  The 1900 census shows the family consisting of Milford, 52; wife , “Beckie,” 50, and sons Austin, 17, and Dorsey, 22.  [The tax record transcription undoubtedly refers to Dorsey, or "Dor," where it says "Don."].  Within several households, and therefore also perhaps on the grounds of Evergreen Place, are the families of Charles Gines (Charles; wife “Loue”–short for Luellen, and daughters Eliza and Mandy) and Jane Gines: Jane (the widow of Milford and Rebecca’s son Ben); sons Milford, 20,  Alfred, 7 and “Isic” Hill, 3; and daughters Caroline, 18, Nancie, 13, and Elnora Hill, 5.

After the Civil War, a number of new freedmen stayed on the same land they had worked while in bondage.  So it is a reasonable inference that these Gines families and others nearby had worked on Marydale  as slaves.

Marydale was owned originally by Alexander Blanche.  He was born in Scotland and came to America in 1851.   At some point, Marydale came into the hands of Charles Gustavus Dahlgren.  A native of Philadelphia, Dahlgren had been a U.S. Navy officer.  In 1835, however, he moved South to try his hand at making a decent living from the land.

In Natchez, Mississippi, Dahlgren became one of the pillars of planters’ society.  He purchased a sizeable quantity of land, apparently icluding Marydale acrsoos the river in Tensas Parish.  Married twice, his step-dauhgter from his second marriage was the novelist-provacateuress Sarah Ellis Dorsey.  Mrs Dorsey had scandalized Mississippi social circles by carrying on a friendship of some sort with Jefferson Davis, later leaving her entire estate to him.

During the War, Dahlgren raised two regiments of troops for the Confederacy.  He was made brigadier general of the 3rd Mississippi Brigade.   Dahlgren had strong views about the prosecution of the war; unfortunately, his views did not coincide with those of Jefferson Davis or Robert E. Lee.  He was eventually relieved of command and marginalized by his former friends.

Dahlgren’s brother, John, was a an admiral in the Federal navy, and his other brother, William was a U.S. spy stationed in England to keep any eye on Confederate purchasing agents.

When the Battle of Vicksburg was lost, Dahlgren abandoned Mississippi (as well as Mary dale) to go to Georgia.  He returned to Mississippi to re-establish himself after the war.  However, he was unable to so, and thus headed back to New York in 1870. He died there in 1888.

Evergreen Place was owned by Haller Nutt, the son of Dr. Rush Nutt, a Virginian, who had moved to Natchez, Mississippi.  Haller Nutt’s mother was the daughter of the founder of what is now the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.

Haller Nutt was educated at the University of Virginia and then returned to Mississippi to assist his father with the family plantation near Natchez,  called Laurel Hill.  The elder Nutt was very much fascinated with the science of cotton growing and so was the younger man.   Rush Nutt had traveled in Egypt and had observed cotton-growing in that nation.  He brought back to Mississippi several Egyptian cotton seed stocks which he hybridized with so-called Mexican seeds.

Haller Nutt eventually owned several plantations in addition to Laurel Hill.  These included Evergreen Place and Winter Quarters in Tensas Parish, Araby in Madison Parish, and Cloverdale near Natchez.  Nutt was one of the largest slaveholders in  all of northeast Louisiana.

Despite being one of the richest men in two states (Louisiana and Mississippi) and notwithstanding his Virginia ancestry  and education, Haller Nutt was a firm Union man.  In fact, General Grant issued a series of “safeguards” to ensure the safety of Nutt’s family and properties when the U.S. Army was operating in his vicinity.  In return, Nutt gave Grant’s troops hogs and other items of subsistence.  Nonetheless, as the Fderal forces moved against Vicksburg, Nutt’s property was burned and looted.   The U.S. Congress later passed a bill compensating hsi widow in the amount of about $260,0000.

Why are these plantations and their stories important to our way around the brick wall?  Well, first, they are in Tensas Parish where many Gines surnamed people appear in the census.  The 1899 Tensas property tax rolls show Elijah and Caroline Gines living on Evergreen Place; presumably they may have worked in bondage there. As we’ve noted above, Rebecca Gines and her son Dorsey lived at Marydale Plantation.  The 1900 census shows her husband Milford living with them.

Second, these plantations are connected to the landowners (and therefore, the slaves) of the Mississippi Delta.   Thre are several Delta counties in Mississippi with large numbers of Gines surnamed people.

But they raise many questions as well.  There are so many slaves involved that it is difficult to link census names and ages to slave schedule ages and genders.  We need to know how the slaves were traded among the Natchez planters.  Did they stay together as afmilies (more apt to happen in Louisiana because of the church-driven Code Noir)?  How did they acquire their surnames?  How did they migrate throughout the region?

Fortunately, there seems to be a great amount of information on this area and these plantations.  It will  take a while to fully analyze, but we may have at least found the motherlode in the fatherland–that being Tensas Parish.  So we can press ahead on several leads in Tensas Parish.

Next: Have we really cracked the brick wall or not?



Sources:

1.  Gower, Herschel, Charles Dahlgren of Natchez: the Civil War and Dynastic Decline, (Washington, D.C.: Brassey’s, 2002).

2.  State of Mississippi, Dept of Archives & History, Pilgrimage Historical Association Collection, Nutt Family Papers 1841-1911. Absract at http://mdah.state.ms.us/manuscripts/z1817.html

Names, Places & Most Wanted Faces

I started this with a note on Facebook and it was suggested that it would make a good meme for bloggers.  The idea is to publicize your surnames and locales to see if anyone elseknows something about them.  For me on Facebook, I got several research-helpful replies. So how much better to take it to a wider audience.

List the surnames you are researching and the general localities.  Then tell the names of your “Most Wanted Ancestors,” that is, the ones you most want to find behind that brickwall.   (You can tag people if you want; I’ve chosen not to do that here so that all readers are included).   Let’s see your lists; maybe we can each help someone out!

Surnames & Locales:

MANSON: Georgia (Talbot, Taylor & Upson Counties) Texas (Milam, Midland Counties)
BOWIE: Louisiana (Cataholua, Avoyelles, Monroe, Rapides Parishes) Texas (Gregg, Harrison Counties)
BIRDSONG: Georgia (Talbot, Upson Counties)
BRAYBOY: Louisiana (Caddo, De Soto Parishes) South Carolina
BRYANT: Texas (Aransas, DeWitt, Nueces, Refugio, San Patricio Counties)
GILBERT: Missouri (Clay, Jackson, Platte Counties)
GINES: Louisiana (Bossier, Caddo, Tensas Parishes) Mississippi (Claiborne, Hancock, Hinds, Pearl River, Walthall Counties) Texas (Harris, Nacogdoches Counties)
JOHNSON: Missouri (Clay, Jackson, Platte Counties)
LeJAY: Louisiana (Caddo, De Soto Parishes)
LONG: Kansas (Johnson County) Missouri (Jackson County)
MICHEAU/MISCHEAUX: California (San Mateo, Los Angeles County) Illinois (Randolph County) Missouri (St Louis)
SANFORD: Tennessee (Williamson County) Texas (Milam County)

Most Wanted Ancestors: Parents of Sarah GILBERT (b. 1849, Clay County, Mo); Parents of Richard William GINES (b. 1860, Bossier Parish, La); Parents of George MICHEAU (1813-1907; Prairie du Rocher, Ill.)

What about you?

Surname Distribution Analyzed

Before we analyze the data to comprehend its meaning, let’s do a bit more research to see if we can validate the existing data.

Let’s check in with the United States Census Bureau which has analyzed names by frequency of occurrence from the 1990 census.

When we search for Gines and then Guynes, the following values are produced:

GINES             0.001   74.431  13779
GUYNES         0.000   79.626  23782

The first number represents the frequency of occurrence of the name in the population sample.  Thus, the name Gines was possessed by 0.001% of the population sample.  The name Guynes was possessed by less than 0.001% of the population sample (and since the values are valid only to three decimal points, there is no significant per cent of the population sample with that name).

The second number represents the percentage of the population covered by the name and those occurring more frequently than the name.  We can see that by the time we get to Gines on the list of most frequently occurring names, we will have covered 74.413% of the population sample.  For Guynes, we will have covered close to 80% of the population.

The third number is the rank of the name in terms of frequency of occurrence in the population sample.  From this we see that Gines ranks 13,779th in frequency; Guynes is the 23,782nd frequently occurring name.

For the methodology used by the Census Bureau, see here.

Keeping in mind that the census name frequency data is based on 1990 input, let’s do some more validation with different data and different methods.

A site called Dynastree came to my attention recently via Randy Seaver.  It is a German-based concern which is attempting to compete in the social/family network arena.  Dynastree has a name distribution tool.

About the name Gines, Dynastree says:

In the US there are 414 phone book entries with the surname Gines and approximately 1,491 persons with this name.
Thus, the surname Gines the 20532nd most frequent name in the US.
People with this surname live in 39 states. Most occurrences are in Utah: 103.
Other states with lots of occurrences are California (49), New York (32), Illinois (22), Florida (21), Idaho (16), Hawaii (16), Texas (15), Missouri (13), as well as Washington (11).

These data give Gines a higher place on the frequency ladder and generally comports with our observations about geographical distribution.  Now, let’s filter out the non-African-American persons from the Dynastree data.   Utah’s Gines population is largely LDS and white, as is Idaho’s.  California’s is mainly Filipino.   New York’s is primarily Puerto Rican.  Florida’s Gineses are Hispanic.  Hawaii’s are mostly Filipino.  Texas is just about evenly split between Hispanic and African-American people with the Gines surname.  So we have left Missouri, Illinois and we know from Ancestry.com that Louisiana and Mississippi historically have had large numbers of African-American people named Gines.

About Guynes, Dysnatree tells us:

In the US there are 399 phone book entries with the surname Guynes and approximately 1.437 persons with this name.

Thus, the surname Guynes the 21185th most frequent name in the US.

People with this surname live in 30 states. Most occurrences are in Texas: 182.

Other states with lots of occurrences are Mississippi (42), California (35), Louisiana (31), Arkansas (17), Oklahoma (13), Tennessee (9), Virginia (6), Colorado (5), as well as New Mexico (5).

These data are broadly consistent with our prior findings.  We thus have potential overlapping populations of black Gines and black Guynes in Mississippi and Louisiana.

Concerning the Dynastree methodology, we should be mindful of what is said on the World Names Profiler site:  telephone books are skewed in favor of male heads of households.  Female cohabitants often are not listed and children usually are not listed.

So what conclusions can we draw?  First, the obvious one: the name Gines is extremely rare.  Second, from the patterns of distribution, people in particular clusters are most likely related in some fashion. This does not necessarily mean a blood kinship. Thus, for example, we can be fairly sure that a person named Gines living in Nevada is probably related to the LDS Gineses and probably not to the African-American Gineses who live in Louisiana. (N.b.: This, of course, is a broad generalization which simply is more often true than not true, but which is not a sure bet.  My cousin Trudy Gines is an African-American who lives in Las Vegas).

Third conclusion:  The name Guynes probably originated as a misspelling of the Gines name.  There are several bits of data which support this theory; primarily is the fact that the name is not found anywhere except in the United States and it’s not known to be an American Indian name.

One point of this is to decide whether, when researching Gines, it would prove fruitful to research Guynes as well.  The other thing is that these distribution patterns tell where searching may be most likely to pay off.  These tools have to be used in connection with other information, such as census data, to get an historical perspective.

Here’s an historical view of the Gines surname in America:

Gines in 1880

Gines in 1880

Gines in 1990

Gines in 1990

The westward migration and growth of the LDS Church is reflected above, as well as movement of Filipinos to Hawaii.

I realize that these examples have lacked mathematical precision, but viewed intuitively, they suggest a connection between these surnames and among the people in the various clusters.

"Gines" Distribution in North America

"Gines" Distribution in North America

"Guynes" Distribution in North America

"Guynes" Distribution in North America

Gines Distribution in North America in "Absolute Numbers"

Gines Distribution in North America in "Absolute Numbers"

Gines surnamed individuals in Louisiana are almost all related to me; it’s likely that most of  those in Mississippi also are related to me.

In another post, I’ll show a good example  of how surname distribution helps track migration.

"Open" State Vital Records: The Bad and the Ugly

One of Several Posts about Open Government Laws and Genealogy

Previously, we spotlighted several states that are particularly “genealogy-friendly” concerning access to state vital records. Now we wade into the swamp of vital records-access horribles.

At the edge of the swamp are states that have unreasonably long (100 years or more for birth records; more than fifty years for death records; or any period for ordinary marriages and divorces) confidentiality periods. These states include:

  • Alabama: 125 years for birth records!
  • Alaska: 100 years for birth records; fifty years for marriage records
  • Arkansas: 100 years for birth records
  • Delaware: 100 years for birth records
  • Hawaii: 75 years for death and marriage records
  • Idaho: 100 years for birth records; 50 years for marriage and divorce records
  • Iowa: 75 years for death, marriage and divorce records; even then, records are simply open for inspection and copying; no copies issued by the state except to persons of a certain relationship.
  • Louisiana: 100 years for birth records
  • Michigan: 100 years for birth records (on the other hand, anyone can have access to Michigan death records).
  • New Jersey: 50 years for marriage records
  • New Mexico: 100 years for birth records, but not prior to individual’s death (but see below).
  • New York: 50 years for marriage records AND both husband and wife are known to be deceased.
  • Oregon: 100 years for birth records
  • Rhode Island: 100 years for birth records
  • Wyoming: 50 years for marriages and divorces

Vital Records Access Hell

  • Georgia: Birth certificates appear to be available only to (1) the person whose record of birth is registered; (2) either parent, guardian, or temporary guardian of the person whose record of birth or death is registered; (3) the living legal spouse or next of kin or the legal representative of the person whose record of birth or death is registered; (4) a court of competent jurisdiction upon its order or subpoena; or (5) any governmental agency, state or federal, provided that such certificate shall be needed for official purposes. This is my reading of Georgia Code section 31-10-26(a) & (e). The law appears to prohibit the issuance of informational or uncertified copies of birth certificates and even abstracts or indices of birth records. If I’m reading this incorrectly, will some Georgia genealogist or lawyer please set me straight.
  • Indiana: Birth and death records are closed to the public and may be disclosed only (1) to an applicant having a direct interest in the matter recorded; (2) when the information is necessary for the determination of personal or property rights or for compliance with state or federal law; or (3) in any extraordinary case that the state registrar determines is a direct tangible and legitimate public interest. That’s my interpretation of Indiana Code section 16-37-1-10. If I’m reading this incorrectly, will some Indiana genealogist or lawyer please set me straight.
  • Kansas: One of the worst! “Currently, the Office of Vital Statistics does allow requests for genealogical research. Pre-1940 records may be requested by an individual related as at least a cousin. Post 1940 records must be requested by an immediate family member.” Kansas Department of Health and Environment vital statistics website (viewed 3/27/2008)
  • Mississippi: “Vital Records are not considered public access documents. Certified copies of records in the custody of the Department of Health may be obtained by persons having a legitimate and tangible interest in such records.” Mississippi State Department of Health Vital Records Rules and Regulations (viewed 3/27/2008). The statute says:
    • Records in the possession of the Mississippi Department of Health, bureau of vital statistics, which would be of no legitimate and tangible interest to a person making a request for access to such records, shall be exempt from the provisions of the Mississippi Public Records Act of 1983; provided, however, nothing in this section shall be construed to prohibit any person with a legitimate and tangible interest in such records from having access thereto. Miss.Code 1972, 41-57-2 (1983).

  • New Mexico: “New Mexico Vital Records are restricted access records and are only issued to immediate family members or individuals who demonstrate tangible legal interest,” so says the New Mexico Department of Health’s website. But, that seems to contradict the statute, which says that records may be disclosed 100 years after birth (but not before person’s death) and 50 years after death. See N.M.Stat. 24-14-27. So the Land of Enchantment makes the hell list not only for being unreasonable, but for confusing people as well.
  • Pennsylvania: Vital records are not open to the public. Eligible requestors are (1) person named on a birth record; (2) legal representative of decedent’s estate; (3) immediate family members; (4) extended family members who indicate a direct relationship to the decedent. Pennsylvania Department of Health vital records website (viewed 3/27/2008).

  • South Carolina: Entitled recipients: (1) the person named on a birth certificate (if eighteen (18) years of age); (2) the parent(s) named on the birth certificate; or the guardian, or a legal representative of one of these persons. On the other hand, any applicant may be provided a statement that a death occurred, including the date and county of death. South Carolina Department of Health and Environmental Control vital records website (viewed 3/27/2008).

There are several states (some listed here, some not) that say that records are open to persons with “a direct and tangible interest,” or a “legitimate interest,” or words to that effect. Without some mitigating factors, this should be enough to consign a state to Vital Records Access Hell. These phrases frequently have no definition, leaving a requestor to the whims of a vital records clerk. It certainly seems to me that genealogical research is a “legitimate,” “direct,” or “tangible” interest!

Special Place in Hell for Online Records Sites

This series has not been focused on online records. A state can earn kudos without having online acess to its records. But if a jurisdiction is going to have on-line access, it should be convenient and affordable. Alas, such is not the case with the Caddo Parish (La.) Clerk of Court’s office, so they are awarded this year’s SPIHFORS. The Caddo clerk’s online marriage records search function frequently doesn’t work properly. And then there’s the matter of fees for the other databases: a $100 “setup” fee and $30.00 a month to view images! Outrageous! Just about fifty miles west of Shreveport, the seat of Caddo Parish, in Gregg County, Texas (much smaller in population than Caddo Parish), the County Clerk provides free online access to some of the same types of documents for which Caddo wants exorbitant fees.

Seems Like Nothin’ Ever Comes to No Good Up on Choctaw Ridge . . . .

Number of “MacAllisters” found in public records in Mississippi from 1790 to 2007: 16 (maybe 17).
Number of MacAllisters in Mississippi named “Billie Joe”: None.

Another Sleepy Dusty Delta Day ?

Conditions in the Delta today (as observed at Greenwood, Mississippi) : High temp. 91o ; isolated thunderstorms; chance of precip., 30%; rel. hum. 50%. Sunrise: 5:51 am CDT. Sunset: 8:07 pm CDT.


A bridge over the Tallahatchie River
(Mississippi Hwy 7 between Holly Springs and Oxford)